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    Default GC vs Wiper: My results

    I am new to benchmarking and GC/wiping, but here are my results which I found interesting:

    After two months of heavy use with no GC or wiping: (JUST updated to 1.30)


    After update to 1.30 and 8 hours of idle GC:


    After 2 more weeks with idle GC sprinkled throughout:


    After running wiper for the first time:


    So even with all the idle GC that happened over the course of two weeks, wiper still made a huge difference.

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    Thanks for finding that out! Interesting!

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    Interesting, thanks for sharing...

    How long do you let it idle and in what state, ie; do you just
    let it sit at the desktop or do you log off and let it sit at the
    login screen...

    According to Tony (in one of his posts) it takes at least 2 hrs
    of idle state for GC to even start working and then could take
    up to 19 hrs (plus) to finish... I believe he's also stated that the
    new FW (soon to release) will have an improved GC that only
    takes about 10 min (+/-) to complete...

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    thanks, i was curious about this myself. and thanks for the link to those awesome photos. i especially like the rodeo pics, talk about a close couple. i thought your avatar was some crazy superhero. lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by wizzard0003 View Post
    Interesting, thanks for sharing...
    How long do you let it idle and in what state, ie; do you just
    let it sit at the desktop or do you log off and let it sit at the
    login screen...

    According to Tony (in one of his posts) it takes at least 2 hrs
    of idle state for GC to even start working and then could take
    up to 19 hrs (plus) to finish... I believe he's also stated that the
    new FW (soon to release) will have an improved GC that only
    takes about 10 min (+/-) to complete...
    I've just let it idle overnight while logged in. My rig pulls over 200W at idle. That's a waste of money (power bill) to idle for 20 hours just to do what wiper can do in 1 minute. Also, logging out and back in takes just as much physical effort as clicking the wiper. So at this point I don't see any reason not to just wipe and ignore the GC. If they improve the GC... more power to them and I will run some similar tests again. :thumbs:

    The other thing is that I turned off the Windows "disks idle after so long" feature in order to presumably allow GC to work. But I have a lot of internal HDD's and don't really want them running all the time.

    Quote Originally Posted by tuney View Post
    thanks, i was curious about this myself. and thanks for the link to those awesome photos. i especially like the rodeo pics, talk about a close couple. i thought your avatar was some crazy superhero. lol
    Thanks for visiting the site... glad you liked the pics. And the "close couple" comment is telling. A few years ago, offering a girl a wingsuit rodeo ride (obviously not the ones pictured since I was behind the lens on those) was how I met my fiancee. "Save a horse... ride a birdman."

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    Quote Originally Posted by The111 View Post
    I've just let it idle overnight while logged in. My rig pulls over 200W at idle. That's a waste of money (power bill) to idle for 20 hours just to do what wiper can do in 1 minute. Also, logging out and back in takes just as much physical effort as clicking the wiper. So at this point I don't see any reason not to just wipe and ignore the GC. If they improve the GC... more power to them and I will run some similar tests again. :thumbs:

    The other thing is that I turned off the Windows "disks idle after so long" feature in order to presumably allow GC to work. But I have a lot of internal HDD's and don't really want them running all the time.



    Thanks for visiting the site... glad you liked the pics. And the "close couple" comment is telling. A few years ago, offering a girl a wingsuit rodeo ride (obviously not the ones pictured since I was behind the lens on those) was how I met my fiancee. "Save a horse... ride a birdman."
    Why idling, try sleeping.There are some info (unknown if it is true or not) that s3 sleep may still let the IGC works. Try sleeping instead of shutting down for a couple of weeks and see what happens.

    There's going to be a new firmware with more improvements to GC. Remember GC in 1.30 is just the first version, it takes several more months to test and refine it, all we can go from here are improvements. It is possible to reach the same level of the wiper's efficiency for the IGC and that could happen in the next firmware update.

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    lol. you must really wow people who ask you how you and your fiancee met. you did an excellent job on the photos and the site! adrenaline junkie!!!! when are you strapping on the jet packs?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MikhailT View Post
    Why idling, try sleeping.There are some info (unknown if it is true or not) that s3 sleep may still let the IGC works. Try sleeping instead of shutting down for a couple of weeks and see what happens.
    I do sleep, all the time. My PC is rarely ever powered off. If I had to guess I'd say it does not GC during sleep... I am 99% sure the disks don't get power in S3.

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    in a similar thread, m.oreilly mentioned using S1 as opposed to S3.

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    Moe said he is successful GC'ing in s1 sleep

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    I believe that, since S1 does leave disks powered as I understand. Heck, S1 is probably better than idle since the O/S won't be fooling the drive into thinking it's still active. But still... if I want to S1 sleep I am going to have to go into BIOS and change my settings just to get a GC pass set up. That is way more of a hassle than running wiper. Only reason I can see to not just use wiper is if you have RAID.

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    If anyone's interested I found this really cool wingsuit video the other day http://wimp.com/basejumpers/ man you guys are crazy but cool!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by chooky View Post
    If anyone's interested I found this really cool wingsuit video the other day http://wimp.com/basejumpers/ man you guys are crazy but cool!!!
    I know some of the guys in that video (and some of them aren't with us anymore). I don't BASE jump (yet?), just skydive. Very different sports despite what they share in common.

    Here is one of my favorite videos I've made:

    http://www.matthoover.com/gallery/sk...o_2009-HD.html

    Sorry to OP (me!) for hijack... but you guys started it!

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    Is there a link or place to download the Wiper for a Vertex 1.3?

    Any "precautions" in a Vista Ultimate setup (eg, does Virus protection need to be disabled)?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brucemck2 View Post
    Is there a link or place to download the Wiper for a Vertex 1.3?

    Any "precautions" in a Vista Ultimate setup (eg, does Virus protection need to be disabled)?
    Search for "wiper" in title and you get this in the first few results:

    http://www.ocztechnologyforum.com/fo...ighlight=wiper

    I had to do the same thing myself last night... it is not as easily findable as it should be in the stickies, etc. I put off trying it a long time because I was scared I'd get problems with 64-bit OS, but it worked fine (I backed up data first, of course).

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